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Sunday, 6 May 2018

Gist of talk with ED

Dear Sri Mahadevan,

1)Thanx for ur detailed exposition on pre-8/1997 pensioners data ,as revealed in various LIC releases with  varying figures
1st one by LIC in 11/8/2003, pre 8/1997 data revealed 21762.
Later  by 20/2/2009,LIC data on same pre-8/1997 pensioners submitted to UOI/MOF was 16,498

Then came  figures supplied by LIC identified for purposes of 40% IR payment as per SC order dt 31/3/2016 ,quoted as17,963 .
Number of such pre-8/1997 pensioners who were paid 40 % IR was 15,922 leaving a gap of 2041.

2)The very fact LIC has all along been taking pensioners data & statistics ,not only on Numbers but also,on various other Parameters ,so lightly & even carelessly is revealed in the way CO ER., CO OS not able to respond to our request for supplying correct figures from ALL ZONES/DIVISIONS & administration only concentrating on basic needs for purposes of fulfilling outwardly mechanically adhering to Programmes supplied by CO without putting to use the Programme for genuine improvement of OS/Personnel administration at ZO Level & through them  administration at DO levels.Even figures of RP,FP, Child Pensioners,Exgratia from CO for ALL ZOs/DOs is not received as at 31/3/2017 & 31/3/2018

Several times I have been pointing out this basic lacuna to EDPer,ED EOS & sometimes if luck favours energetic Sy ER who were good enough to secure the data but again some Zones were lax in that too.

3)The problem is none has the sense of anticipation & even when some simmering legal cases or references to such data are needed, advance alerts & preparation are not put in place & so delay becomes inevitable.
It is here I feel gratified  that a real sense of participation in the joys & sorrows of pensioners, I could visibly create by our Delegation meeting at some intervals RMOS SZ & other Officers present ,outlining some critical issues & requesting RMOS to introduce needed checks & balances to automatically extract such data from the programme extension related to the subjectmatter involved. I appealed to SZ to cover all important & relevant aspects in their Quality Control Report. That last year & year before,SZ special efforts & focus to help Title,Mobile No,EMail id to be registered for quick communications yielded fantastic results.

 Instances of SZ supplying flash data at the time of Historic SC verdict in 2008 , on Gratuity, whereby Officers retired between 1/8/1992--31/7/1994 secured after a brave struggle Difference in Gratuity etc from Date of  Retirement to date of settlement of arrears, considerable amount indeed.Myself, Sri KMLAsthana  & late Sri MLGandhi put our heads together ,prepared with no loss of time Appeal to LIC Chairman for payment of interest & Sri TSVijayan approved immediately 10 % SI & as the period of arrears was long,16 yrs & more,SI far exceeded the Principal  arrears.

Purpose of this elucidation is LIC Management realised on the basis of our entreaties the significance & importance of Keeping data Macro & Micro.   I supplied Full data with all particulars to all Divisions of SZ then & even now in Mysuru Zonal Council Meeting,SZ ,October 2017,to RIEA OBs ,which was conducted under my aegis.

4)You will recall ,sure with nostalgia, the association we had in immersing ourselves in a series of email exchanges ,immediately commencing from May 2010 release of Hon justice Bhandari Judgement on the 2 writs of Sri KMLA.Dire need for understsnding the real import of that historic Rajasthan HC verdict, the data to be collected, the diverse factors involved,the accurate data as best as we can ,the deeper distribution of such data Cadrewise, a more complicated exercise, as we felt some semblance of Statistical Charts & Tables ,after collection, collation, reality check was adminsitered to test reasonable accuracy,almost on daily basis, emails so valuable, a Treasure indeed, more than 110 such emails over a year with mountainous data ,contracted in sensible charts,focussed to reveal meaning & substance to the verdict.

The pressure I exerted on SZ ZMSectl,Pension Cell, sometimes other related Depts F & A,  I  recall with a sense of purpose & dedication to streamline & make Statistics speak truth,if I may say so. Right from 1983 wage Charts, Fitment charts,Figures of Class I,II, III & IV were all pooled for dissection.
Umpteen questions & doubts raised by you, we were able to share replies & consolidate in crucible, distilled form .Cobwebs of eternal doubts vanished, confidence implanted & road to Future demarcated.
That was the initial Saga of sacrifice lasting long 12/15 months ,providing a strong foothold on control of data,but enabling us all to pinpoint the correctness or hollowness of what LIC states.& disproving the traditional cliche  lies, damnlies & statistics  .

5)With this as backdrop, as SZ figures, SZ Cadrewise figures & any other permutations & combinations became simpler & even childs play.Suitable extrapolitions or interpolitions were undertaken in right spirit.

LIC vacillated between a high 21,762,  a moderate 16,498 & corrected 17,963.
Figures of pensioners available  AllIndia when I analysed threadbare,reveal that only 1907-2000 pensioners are added on an average Yearly.
All the figures we ,all along these years ,on the basis of reasonable assumptions with reasons, incorporated in ever so many Statements, Tables & Charts,of Pension Anamoly, of Outlay worked out Hly after DR release,all happily converged & not diverged with a small error % perhaps,not to distort conclusions.

 Our traditional 16,500 pre 8/1997 pensioners,stood the test of time & Outlay prepared by Sri RKSahni,after he also had contacts & access with me for the last many years, & the figures testify that Rs 3300cr outlay or Rs 210cr per annum is not only correct , ie 43,200 RP & FP combined till 31/7/2012 eligible for PUpgradation, as LIC also testified as Rs 3123cr perhaps, lower than our estimate for all the pensioners.

6)If 1900-2000 pensioners are added, post 8/1997 pensioners can be taken to be 1900-2000 X 20 years till 31/7/2017 ie 40,000 to be added to pre-8/97 pensioners 16,500 ie 56,500
Present 31/3/2017 Total pensioners is app 52,500  

If it is 21,762 ,then GT of pensioners will now have to be 21762 +40,000=61,762 too high it looks

If it is 17,963 ,then GT will be +40,000 ie 57,963,also slightly high.

When one looks to the period of LIC Board Resolution dt 24/11/2001 & subsequent LIC workcharts of Board Resolution interpreted, there respectable pre 8/1997 figures, app 16,000 is included

7)When I enquired here ZO,DO I,II  etc,they tell me that LIC CO prepared Full list of pensioners, Arrears calculation from DOR to 31/3/2016 as per SC Order & they just followed it & nothing else,for payment of 40 % IR.

Unfortunately, LIC Zones& Divisions will have Pensioners data,adding & subtracting as the case may be  & every Division, in my opinion, must compare LIC CO List supplied for 40% IR settlement ,with their own & find out OMISSIONS  which must reveal the extent of gap& damage,& initiate settlement action of 40% IR  ,communicating to Pensioners Families,with requirements, if any, apart from amount,not in conformity with SC Orders dt 31/3/2016, as you rightly say.

8)Please share the reply & data when you receive response to ur Application under RTI

Greetings & warm regards,

R.B.KISHORE

VP,AIRIEF

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