Sir, Marvellous as well as wonderful presentation so many many Thanks. -----B.S.Verma
2)a)Article of Sri R.Ramakrishnan,Negative Liability & Negative coconuts:
Thanks sir. It is very interesting and educating.------------------------ Dharmendra Kumar
b)Thank u respected Sir, Regards -------------- A KGoswami
3)Pensioners Emails & Feedback from 1st August,2015;Series No 107
Respected shri Kishoreji ,Pleased to read your 'feedback' mail.Especially, " Everything comes to go..."Friends from other divisions like Rajkot, Ahmedabad etc might also be enjoying your monthly feedback.Though, response from them is seen in it.Perhaps the phrase, "Come to go..." works there also! Any how Thank you v much for keeping us alive.
------------------------------------------------------------------P B Acharya & friends of Jamnagar
4) Dear Sir, Thanks for the Independence Day Greetings.
My phone & internet connection was out of order, often, since last week of July. Got restored only now. Thanks for Feedback. I read the entire mail in one go and some I reread like the one "Enjoy Life", "Let it go". Pension Matters, yes, they occupy an important place, but matters like the one listed above enliven and help relax. The recent piece "Jokes to Laugh", is one of the many I share with others and they also like it.
With Greetings And Prayers to Tirumala- Tirupati Sri Venkateswaraswami to Bless You and Other Family Members with All that is Good And Lasting.
Yours, ---- ----------------------------------------------S.R.Nagarajan.
5) A GUIDE TO HYPERTENSION:, Very useful and informative article Thanks for uploading C.L.Janakiraman
6)
** WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR A MOMENT WHETHER THE L I C HONOR SUPREME COURT ORDER D/ 07 05 2015 IF IT IS IMPLEMENTED WE HAVE TO VERIFY
WHETHER THEY IMPLEMENTED CORRECTLY THE JUDGEMENT OF JAIPUR,
CHANDIGARH AND DELHI. FIRST L I C HAS TO CALCULATE THE AMOUNT
DUE TO THE PENSIONERS THE COMPONENTS OF DA, UP GRADATION OF PENSION TILL DATE AND ALSO INTEREST TILL THE DATE OF PAYMENT
FROM THE DATE OF ELIGIBILITY OR FROM THE DATE OF RETIREMENT AS
PER SUPREME COURT ORDER ISSUED BY THEM EARLIER THEN THEY HAVE
TO DEDUCT THE AMOUNT ACTUALLY PAID TO US, THEN ONLY AMOUNT DUE
CAN BE ARRIVED AT. OUT OF THAT BALANCE 20% HAS TO BE PAID TO US.
HAVING HAD MUCH EXPERIENCE WITH THE L I C MANAGEMENT I DO NOT
THINK THAT THEY WILL OBLIGE THE SUPREME COURT ORDER. WE HAVE
TO BE FORCED TO NECESSARY LEGAL STEPS TO COMPEL L I C TO MAKE
THE PAYMENT.
WITH GREETINGS,
L S R KRISHNA RAO
*SIR, FURTHER TO MY OPINION DATED 13 TH MAY 2015 AS I DOUBTED AND EVERY ONE EXPECTED THE L I C DID NOT HONOR THE SUPREME COURT
ORDER IN THE PAYMENT OF INTERIM RELIEF EITHER TO THE PENSIONER
OR TO THE PETITIONERS. THE SUPREME COURT CATEGORICALLY MENTIONS TO PAY AS PER THE IMPUGNED ORDER (IN THE MINDS OF THE L I C) OF JAIPUR SINCE THE TWO OTHER JUDGEMENT ENDORSED SHRI SJ M N BHANDARI. IT MENTIONED TO PAY 20% OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT DUE TO THERESPONDENT – PETITIONERS. THE JAIPUR JUDGEMENT SPECIFIES " THE BENEFIT ARISING OUT OF THE JUDGEMENT SHOULD ME MADE APPLICABLE TO ALL THE PENSIONERS" BUT IT WAS NOT HONORED WHICH AMOUNTS TO
GROSS VIOLATION OF SUPREME COURT INTERIM ORDER.
NATURALLY, IT GIVES A DOUBT WHETHER THE ENSUING ORDER OF 23 09 2015 WILL BE HONORED BY L I C. IT GIVES DOUBT TO EVEN JUSTICE DEEPAK
MISRA ALSO. NAREBNDRA MODI IS SAYING THAT HIS GOVERNMENT IS PRAGMATIC AND PROGRESSIVE ALSO, BUT THEIR ACTIONS PROVE TO OURSELVES WHEN THE FINAL JUDGEMENT BEING DELIVERED BY THE
SUPREME COURT EITHER ON 23 09 2015 OR ON SOME OTHER DATE.
LET US EDUCATE OUR PENSIONERS TO CONSOLIDATE OUR RANK AND FILE
TO PREPARE FOR ANY EVENTUALITY. THOUGH WE HAVE BECOME AGED
THERE ARE SOME MEANS TO MAKE NAMO GOVERNMENT TO YIELD TO
TO THE MEASURES AS OUR LEGAL COMMITTEE COULD TAKE TO PRESSURIZE THE GOVERNMENT AND L I C TO THINK OVER THE MATTER
AND LET US NOT LEAVE THEM AND LET THEM UNDERSTAND THAT THERE
IS NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE THAN TO PAY AS PER THE ORDER OF THE SUPREME COURT VERDICT.
I AM NOT A PESSIMIST BUT I AM TRYING TO VISUALIZE FROM ALL ANGLES,
SO, LET US BRING UNITY AMONG ALL THE PENSIONERS TOGETHER.
WITH GREETINGS, ----------L S R KRISHNA RAO
7)Sir it is great of you to provide interesting and valuable data by ur mails in general
and essentially needed for our case in S.C.With just one month spared for the S.C
hearing I wish that KMLA should have assured U by now that UR valuable data
will be utilised to the full extent and brief our counsel for fortifying our case at S.C.
Are U convinced that KMLA is busy on this count. How is going to take care of the 5 petitioners of post Aug.97 , especially when GNS and AIIPA took the stand that the benefit of the Nov.2001 resolution relate to only the Pre Aug 97 pensioners to get 100% D.R neutralisation which was taken advantage by the L.I.C .Further as per the S.C order 7-5-2015 having taken notice on the SLP of the GOI did KMLA file any counter on condonation of delay , any addl. counters utilising UR
data , any addl . affidavits, complain to SC on the deletion of the 5 Post Aug97petitioners. I think it is our burden to stand by the case of the post Aug.97 Pensioners to ensure updation of pension. kindly interact directly with KMLAto advise him in the matter. P.S correction made "PRE AUG 97 " to get 100%D.R--------------------V.S.PRAKASARAO , VISAKHAPATNAM
8)CHALLENGES KEEP YOU ENERGISED:
*SIR, THE ONLY CHALLENGE BEFORE US THE CONSOLIDATION OF OUR RANK
AND FILE, THERE ARE CERTAIN ELEMENTS THAT HAVE ENTERED IN ONE FORUM OR OTHER ACTING IN THEIR OWN MANNER, THEIR INTENTIONS ARE
NOT CLEAR IN THE GUISE OF PENSIONERS ACTING DETRIMENTAL TO THE
INTEREST OF THE PENSIONERS, THE MAJORITY OF PENSIONERS HAVE ALREADY UNDERSTOOD THE STOCK REALITY OF THE SITUATION AND NOW
OUR COLLEGES ARE ACTIVE, MORE ACTIVE AS THEY CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD
THE STOCK REALITY IN EVERY ONE OF THEIR MOVE. SHRI K M L ASTHANA
IS MOVING IN SUCH A MANNER SO THAT NONE COULD TOPPLE THE STRATEGY OF AIRIEF.
THE CASE LAWS ARE IN OUR FAVOR. THE LEGAL PUNDITS WITHIN OUR ORGANISATION AND OUTSIDE EXPRESSING THAT WE WILL AND WE CAN
MEET JUSTICE IN THE HANDS OF SUPREME COURT JUDGE DEEPAK MISRA
ON 23 09 2015.
THE ONLY CHALLENGE BEFORE US HOW FAR THE L I C AND THE GOVERNMENT WILL IMPLEMENT THE COURT ORDER.
FIRSTLY, I HOPE THAT I WISH THE WISER COUNSELS AND THE WISDOM OF
L I C AND THE GOVERNMENT WILL PREVAIL TO HONOR THE SUPREME
COURT ORDER, FAILING WHICH THERE ARE SEVERAL LEGAL REMEDIES WHERE WE CAN FORCE THE L I C AND GOVERNMENT 'TO IMPLEMENT THE
SUPREME COURT ORDER' AND I FEEL THAT IT IS NECESSARY THAT OURLEADERSHIP LIKE SHRI R B KISHORE AND SAXENA SHOULD MAKE USE OFTHE MEDIA WHETHER THE PRINT MEDIA OR ELECTRONIC MEDIA TO IMPRESSUPON THE PEOPLE THE FACTUAL POSITIONS OF OUR CASE.
I HOPE THAT THE LEADERSHIP OF AIRIEF WILL MAKE USE ALL THE METHODSAND I AM VERY MUCH CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL MAKE USE OF THEIRWISDOM AND MAKE THE THE L I C AND THE GOVERNMENT TO IMPLEMENTTHE SUPREME COURT ORDER. OF COURSE THERE IS AN OLD SAYING THATWE CAN TAKE THE HORSE TO A POND AND WE CANNOT MAKE IT DRINK. BUT
I AM SURE THAT THEY CAN MAKE IT DRINK AND NO CHANCE WILL BE TAKENTO LEAVE IT TO THE CHOICE OF L I C OF INDIA AND THE GOVERNMENT.LET US CELEBRATE THAT OCCASION WITH MUCH ENTHUSIASM IN EVERYDIVISIONAL AND ZONAL CENTERS
WITH GREETINGS, ----------L S R KRISHNA RAO.
OF THE AIRIEF
9) Subject: Fw:Re: Clarification about Cashless treatment for Carcinoma
Respected Sir, A)Shri R K Mittal is a colleague and friend of mine and we both ere togather at DO Karnal from 1997 to 2000 till my retirement in may, 2000.
I forward his mail
HE IS RESIDING AT GHAZIABAD IN UP UNDER DO MERRUT UNDER NORTH CENTRAL ZONE.
He IS PRESENTLY UNDER GOING TREATMENT FOR CARCINOMA IN URINARY BLADDER SINCE 25TH JUNE 2015.
HIS MAIL IS SELF EXPLANATORY. THE TPA IS RAKSHAHEALTHSERVICES.
FURTHER I RECEIVED HIS SMS ON 20.08.2015 READING AS UNDER:-
"TODAY MY BCG WAS ONE. I TALKED TO TO DOCTORS.THEY TOLD ME THAT CYSTOSCOPY IS NOT INVESTIGATION BUT IS PART OF TREATMENT & SURGICAL PROCEDURE."
MAY I REQUEST YOU TO KINDLY GO THROUGH THE MAILS AND ADVISE SUITABLY.
MEANWHILE I HAVE ADVISED HIM TO SEND THE REQUEST FOR CASHLESS TREATMENT THROUGH THE HOSPITAL AUTHORITIES AS PER PROCEDURE.
with regards, -------------rksahni
1)This has reference to my talk with Smt Rajini,SDM Sect re urgent attention to help & assist Dr RKMittal to extend Cashless facility with TPA Raksha Health services,as he is sufferring from Carcinoma in Bladder.In view of the pathetic nature of the prolonged but timely treatment he has to undertake, as mentioned "As you are already aware that I am suffering from Carcinoma in bladder. My BCGs are being done at Medanta City Clinic, Defence Colony, New Delhi.
After 6 BCGs the doctor has advised following treatment.
1) Cystoscopy for 4 weeks after 6 BCGs completion.
2) Intravesical BCG instillation between the Cystoscopies.
3) Urine Cytology for 3 consecutive days before next Cystoscopy
4) Check Cystoscopy every 3 months. After BCGs, repetitive Cystoscopies are to be done.
The Cystoscopies are also being done at Medanta City Clinic in day care. Kindly ask TPA and advise me whether I may get Cystoscopy done in day care or should get admitted at Medanta Hospital, Gurgaon for a day. "-RKMittal
2)Even if we go by the opinion given "With reference to your trail mail we would like to apprise you that hospitalization only for cystoscopy is not admissible as it is only investigation process, but if it fall under pre 30 days or post 60 days of any valid hospitalization so it is admissible as pre & post hospitalization claim."Thanks & Regards, Dr Mohd Arif
In view of the SERIOUS nature of cancer of the bladder & a STRING of investigations,it will be highly improper to take Cystoscopy as a mere investigation but it has to be wellnigh treated as part of operation & Surgical procedure.
The patient ,pensioner,SuperSr Citizen has to be treated with care & concern, offerred Cashless Facility & allowed Day care & he will also comply with the Pre 30days or Post 60 days of hospitalisation with due certificate from attending Doctor
3)I have requested Smt Rajini,SDM Sect to talk to Mgr OS Smt Rajkumari to render all help to Dr RKMittal,pensioner & keep pucca liasion with TPA & appraise them of the immediacy & seriousness of the matter
4)This email is also addressed to OSDept.LIC DO Meerut
5)I shall be very glad to get a reply as we must have care & concern when such serious cases of our brethen are brought to our notice & to be given that EXTRA empathy which will earn praise to OS dept, TPA & Meerut DO too
Thanking u,Yours sincerely,,-----------------RBKISHORE
RESPECTED SIR,C)I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR IMMEDIATE ACTION IN THE MATTER
THE E-MAIL ID OF SHRI R K MITTAL IS
I am forwarding mail to him.
i have also spoken to him
D)Sri RKMittal phoned me,he was profuse in his praise.He says he knows me from 1981.I was in MDC as a Professor during that period ,long innings, 1977-1982.1st time,it was proved that youngsters age 37/39 could be good Faculty,command respect,not necessarily age 50/55 etc or the practice we categorically told TOP MGT then those about to retire shd never be transferred to ZTC/MDC etc as that will create a bad impression--------
--------------------------Come September plus many others who I help takes time,Sacrifice brings happiness too.
When I asked Sri RKMITTAL, He told me he chose OSA of Rs 20 lacs.I congratulated him.I told him the moment I read RKS email,I decided I shd do something positive.I told him to adhere to Doctor schedule,follow rules & keep liaison to make good progress & wished him & all well
Greetings R.B.KISHORE,VP,AIRIEF
Respected Sir,E) I have not come across a person like you who takes such a keen interest in mitigating the problems of the retirees.
When I sent mail I was sure that you would act promptly.
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On going through your mail, I searched my file to trace the group photographs taken during my MDC training.I am sending a scan copy of a group photo in which you are fourth from right in the first row.
With kind regards, Rksahni
10) Respected Shri Kishore, Thanks for your kind intervention in the case of Shri R K Mittal.
With regards -----------------------.S.S. Saxena, Bhopal
11) A)My dear KGopalan,1)As I didn't hear from u or Sri KSRaman,after his initial attempt with Nagpur DO to expedite ur 2 mediclaims,today morn, I phoned SDM Nagpur.Only PA ,SDM Sect Smt Geetha was there.I gave details of ur pending claims for a long time & lot of efforts were made but of no avail, I mentioned to her.
She noted my Tel LLine & also Mobile
2)After 2 hrs ,she promptly phoned me to say that both claims to the tune of some Rs50,000 plus & another , Rs42,000 plus for cataract etc were already settled & credited to ur bank ac -------
Anyway glad the claims are settled & matter is over
Greetings, ----------------------------------- RBKISHORE,VP,AIRIEF
B)---------- I am indeed obliged to you for your concern and such follow up with kind consideration for which you are well known in our circle. Regards to Seetha and yourself,----- K.Gopalan.
12) That's right : it is "Existence" Certificate and not "Life" Certificate because LIC knows only too well that the pittance doled out by it under the guise of 'pension' to earlier retirees does not enable them to lead a decent 'life" and so "Life" Certificate will be a misnomer in their case at least, right?
Remember that favourite phrase of LIC's - "By way of abundant caution"?
As for "Existence" Certificate I hold that it's enough if we ourselves convince LIC that we THINK and so we EXIST taking a cue from Descartes instead of going after serving LIC Class I / II Officers, HGAs, Bank Managers, Medical Practitioners, etc.
Or we can emulate that spunky girl in the joke who whipped out her compact, took out her mirror, looked at it and declared : "Yes, it's me all right" when asked by a bank clerk to prove her identity. We can go to the nearest office of LIC with a mirror, look at it and declare ourselves on which the head of that office / authorised official would convey our existence to our respective pension disbursing offices.
I know my fellow pensioners are capable of suggesting various other ingenious methods also to prove to LIC that we "EXIST" (somehow?)-----------------P.Ramanathan
13)Dear & respected Sir,(to Sri MPsubramanian) Greetings from your loving friend !
I really enjoyed the forwarded message of Mr P.Ramanathan and take it into heart to realise that not only LIC, all the Employers are insisting from their ex-employees for the same certificate of EXISTENCE every year for the continued payment of pension.
My suggestion is that why not these Employers go ahead merely on the basis of self attested life certificates as inthe case of novel idea introduced by our present Honourable PM when he was as the Chief Minister of Gujarat and thereafterto in various Govt . offices in Delhi too , similar to that of his earlier action. To prove the correctness, there are ample records also available in their office numerous files.
This practice will not only eliminate various inconveniences ofthe ex-employees who have almost exhausted energy of their life,to run from one pillar to another to prove his/ her self existence with the unknown person solely for the purpose of pension. On most of the occasions there is every possibility of declining that they are not known to them earlier or insist for any identity.
In such circumstances the situations goes worst.
Respected MPS Sir, Please think over it and suggest some enervated idea at least for the future generations.
Kind Regards-----------------,SKulandaiswamy
14)My telephonic interaction with a few pre-August 1997 retiree-members of the affiliate Associations of the Class I retirees' Federation indicate that Mr G N Sridharan,Gen, Secy has assured them that he proposes to furnish the full list of pre-August 1997 retiree members to LIC irrespective of their fulfilling the criteria laid down by LIC in its letter dt 6/7/2015 to the Federation.
My information is that there is no official communication by way of a circular from the Federation in regard to the steps taken by the Federation for securing interim relief to its members as per the SC order dt 7/5/2015.
Will the Federation come out with the list furnished to LIC CO in public domain so that eligible members will satisfy themselves that their names find a place in the list and any omissions can be brought to the notice of the Federation?
The more crucial point that emerges is that if the Federation has furnished the complete list of pre-August 1997 retiree members,whether LIC will act on the list.In all probability, they will not.To my knowledge at least one affiliated Association,viz,.Cuttack Association was formed in 2010 and if the names of members of that Association have been furnished,we can expect LIC not to consider them eligible for payment of interim relief.
The better course for the Federation would have been to reply to LIC that as the Delhi HC judgment was for payment of benefits in rem the Federation had no list to furnish and that LIC could act according to the judgment by reference to its own pensioners' records.Instead it has walked into the trap laid by LIC to successfully escape from charges of contempt of Supreme Court orders.Ultimately the gap between the interim relief payment and the potential final relief is narrowing every day with pensioners' mortality taking its toll.
With greetings,-------------------------------C H Mahadevan
15)Dear RBK / MPS, To-day is 23rd August. In a month's time, by this time in the evening, we would know the results of our pretty long struggle.
May I, as one who was with a previous insurer and was with LIC from DAY ONE,sound a word of caution. Let us not fall a prey to EGO, Let us learn to understand the other man's perception, and fight for the common cause, sacrificing our individual priorities, likes or dislikes.
Let us not, during this one month, discuss as to what would be the outcome. Whatever that has been destined WILL COME.
Sorry for being philosophical, but let us be PREPARED not to loose this day - 23rd Sept. Let us see that our CASE IS HEARD, a Decision is given - in clear terms, let us not allow the other side to seek a postponement, even if it is a day and justify to our members " We have waited so long, the one day or one week is not an issue" or " this is how judiciary works".
Let us all - pool our intelligence, and let us all listen to the smallest suggestions that have come, let us prepare a proper move by making our Advocates appreciate this case as a SPECIAL CASE and not just one more case.
Let us not exchange words but concentration our action.
On my part, I can do nothing except pray at 80 plus. Let us Pray.
Keep Going, Keep Growing, ------------UncleNan
16) Respected Uncle NAN Sir, The " WISH " & the " PRAYER " of the elder statesmen like your goodself will certainly yield the desired, all round, thumping, flawless & favourable results shortly. Days are not far off to celebrate our colourful victory. Fraternally Yours, ---- MPSubramanian
17)Dear Sir:I give hereunder a note recently prepared on Pensioners issues which is
self-explanatory. Regards,,VK BHASIN,CHAIRMAN,GENERAL INSURANCE PENSIONERS ASSOCIATION
A)WHO ARE PENSIONERS?
a)Pensioners :
are deferred Wage Employees as per Law held by Supreme Court of India.
Their relationship with Employer
continues and they get paid for their past services.
Pensioners have a Legal Right to Pension.
b)It is not a Welfare issue alone though Welfare Fund needs to be created by each Employer and annual contributions made from Profits/Earnings.
Pensioners of the Bank or Public Sector (Insurance) are Pensioners of the Central Government since the Pension Scheme is notified by the Government of India, Ministry of Finance not by the Individual Bank/Company as per Government of India Policy.
c)The Pension Scheme has been launched in 1995 for Insurance Sector on the basis of Central Government Pension Rules/Scheme.
It is clearly stated in Pension Scheme
that where the Scheme is silent Central Civil Pension Rules as applicable to Central Government will apply.
d)The Central Government Pension Rules are updated from time to timeto allow Pension Updation/Medical/Family Pension Benefits etc. including Family Pension as recommended by various Independent Wage Commissions headed by retired Judges & approved by the Government of India but it is not adopted or improved more than that as this becomes a baseline of our demands in Insurance Sector.
Most State Governments follow the Government of India decisions in this regard for their Pensioners.
e)Why Financial Sector or General Insurance Industry owned by the Government of India not follow?
This is where Pensioners have to organize and fight for their Rights.
B)MAIN ISSUES OF PENSIONERS:
1. Pension has to be Updated with Each Pay Revision (The Central Government Pensioners are getting 40 per cent Updation already from 2006 though their demand is for 50 per cent which is under consideration by Government of India in the recently appointed Wage Commission.
(Pl. note Pension is allowed 50 per cent of last Pay & DA drawn by an Employee. Hence it is 50 per cent demand after Wage Revisions).
If not done so it is a Breach of Article 14 (Right to Equality) and Article 21 (Right to Decent Living) which are fundamental rights guaranteed under the Constitution of India. THAT IS CALLED ONE RANK ONE PENSION.
Supreme Court has held: There cannot be different Groups of Pensioners(i.e. those who retire now & those who retired earlier) drawing Different Pension Incomes in the same rank since it breaches the fundamental rights. So all Pensioners must draw Pension at leastMinimum of the Grade in which they Retire irrespective of the date of Retirement after Wage Revision. That is called PENSION UPDATION.
How can one draw different Pension if one retires in a Particular Rank withsame service/eligibility for Pension to draw different Pension Incomes. That is a Breach of Constitutional provisions as per Law laid by the Supreme Court of India.
2. Medical:
Medical Provisions are required to be passed on to Pensioners/Retirees of the Government/Public Sector as per Law since it is a Welfare State. The Government is a Model Employer and the General Insurance Industry was nationalized for this purpose.
The Courts have held that the Medical Scheme as available to Employees have to be available to Retiree Pensioners as a measure of welfare.
IMP.:
IBA has already agreed to grant Domiciliary Medical Allowance to Retirees
in parity with the serving employees. We need to get this implemented for our retirees.
THE CMDs ARE GETTING PENSION AS PER CENTRAL GOVT. RULES THOUGH THEIR APPOINTMENT IS FOR A TERM OF FEW YEARS.
THE GMs & DIRECTORS ARE GETTING FREE MEDICAL SCHEME UNLIMITEDTHOUGH IT IS A MERE NOMINATION FOR SOME TIME. THIS IS DIVIDE & RULE POLICY & MUST BE QUESTIONED.
3)Other Issues:
Super Sr. Pensioners Scheme in the Central Govt. for 80 plus to be implemented in Insurance since it has become a requirement of the society and the Government has a responsibility. This Schme is
likely to be applicable to retirees of 65+ as per demand in Wage Commission.
Family Pension: already upgraded to 30 per cent instead 15 per cent given to us. The Demand before the Wage Commission is to make it 50 per cent. Applicabilty of Family Pension has also to be redefined as per improvements made in Central Govt. Pension Rules.
4)GENERAL: Traditionally, the Financial Sector employees have got a better pay and service conditions due to risky nature of their work and commercial aspects.
How can the Pensioners not even get what Central Government itself is giving to their own Pensioners.We need to get more and certainly not less compared to Central Govt. Pensioners.
FOR ACHIEVING THE ABOVE, WE NEED TO ASK FOR PARITY WITH CENTRAL GOVERNMENT PENSIONERS
AS MINIMUM BASE LINE OF OUR DEMAND TO BE ACCORDED BY SIMPLE PROCEDURE OF ADOPTION WHEN SUCH RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THERE.
ALTERNATIVELY, WE ASK FOR INDEPENDENT COMMISSION FOR PENSIONERS DEMANDS HEADED BY A RETIRED JUDGE OF SUPREME COURT OR HIGH COURT IN INDIA.
We need to take the base of Central Govt. Pensioners/benefits as minimum base line and the management must consider to grant similar benefits if not more to its Pensioners.
Most State Govts. follow this line for their Pensioners. How can the General Insurance Public Sector ignore it?
All Policies of the Government of India, be it related to Central Vigilance Commission, CBI provisions, Grievance Machinery, etc. are followed by the Public Sector and why not for Pensionery benefits and their revisions from time to time.
5)INDUSTRY ISSUES:
Pensioners are disorganized & divided lot and spread over widely. They have their age, sickness and body issues including health as a problem to organize.
The Inservice Unions must make them their Members and the Unions must fight for their issues. The Pensioners however need to give inputs to Inservice Unions since all have to retire sooner or later. These issues could also be discussed under Trade Union Law under which the Unions are Registered.
The Management has totally ignored to address Pensioners issues. They even do not acknowledge their communications though RTI Law prevails besides Consumer Act provisions apply.
IF EMPLOYEES WORKING UNIONS ALSO NOT CARE THE PENSIONERS ARE LIKE THE PARENTS WHO ARE THROWN OUT BY THEIR YOUNG CHILDREN WHEN THEY NEED THEM THE MOST.
We need to ask data for Building Pensioner/Retirees Welfare Fund by the GIPSA companies over the years. This is as per directions of the Govt. of India to allocate funds for Employees and Pensioners welfare.
Nodal Officers Appointment at HO and Regional Centres of all Companies is a must where Pensioners can put up their issues and seek redressal of issues.
The Ministry of Pension & Pensioners Grievances as well as Ministry of Finance have given directions for appointment of Nodal officers. Banks have appointed Nodal Officers but not Insurance Industry.
(PL. SEND THIS NOTE TO ALL INSERVICE & PENSIONERS ASSOCIATIONS LEADERS) __________________________________________________________
18)Gist of talks with Chief Per on pensioners pending issues :
Well done! Pl. Keep. The pressure for tpa issuing cards. Thanks.--------KKSheri
19) Good move--------------------RTSwamy
20)Thanks for the mail regarding e card follow up.Similarly, Medi claim prem for the year2015-16
has been reduced and mails alongwith new prem rates are placed on this site, we have still not
received the refund in our Rajkot DO Can we know about other divisions?
----------------------P B Acharya (Jamnagar)
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| 21) Dear friend what was the reaction of chief pers to all what you put up to him. --------------------------Harbhajan Singh
22) | My dear, what a wonderful question u have asked ,indeed a million dollar question
How manygoals u had in UR life.how many a chieved
How many goals u had in public life,how many u achieved
Pl become an active OB,President, GS run a Fedn,meet Chief P. Raise queries,join OROP stalwarts on relay strike, u will then understand,
37th month for wage charter,mighty orgns,why delay,ask them
Chief P is friendly,listens,never regrets
U all cannot get ECards,talking to ZM!SDMconcerned,I ca n laugh at this
We in SZ got last month,Learn,my dear friend,do something,then walk the talk
We will fup,we get what we deserve
Greetings,warm regards --------------,RBKISHORE,,VP,AIRIEF |
| 23) Thanks my dear what you have said. My question is not about the outcome. I only desired that if some confirmation ha s been given for deduction of pension in instalments. Pl do not mind.I have been doing all this and even now continue to forward message from Association and Federation to many pensioners. I am your regular reader.-------HARBHAJAN SINGH.-
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24)IN WHAT WAY THE PC IS CONCERNED;Let him say WHAT IS THE ROLE OF HIS ORGANISATION:
The cat has come out with its ugly face. All these years it has been boasting that it has taken birth only to cater to the needs of the entire cadre of LIC pensioners with nil bias. Every pensioner is aware that no efforts from our side would bring any solace from the Central Monarch in respect of our demand of up-gradation or revision of pension. Several leaders attempted to convince the bureaucracy towards fulfilment of the same; but returned with empty hands. Another recent big attempt by, supposed to be, a mighty organisation, to clinch the deal before 23rd September, was also shown the door. We know pretty well that our Management would sit tight and escape under the wrong cover of "Subjudice".
That is why our learned Vice-President Sri. R.B.Kishore has taken up another vital issue like TPAs etc with higher-ups. Is it a big crime ? Does his action warrants such ridiculing comments with a rubbish cartoon ? Does it exhibit the ethics of journalism ? He knows more than any body else what is to be claimed, how best,when and where. It is better that the other side tries to understand his mettle at least from now on.
-------------------------------------M.P.Subrahmanian, RIEA, Madurai.-
This is * the most unkindest cut of all, this barbaric, brutal, callous, cold-blooded, cruel, filthy, harsh, heartless, illogical, immoral, improper, inhuman, insensitive, merciless, off-colour, outrageous, reckless, ridiculous, savage, shocking, tasteless, unbecoming, uncaring, unkind, unseemly, vicious and vile hitting below the belt KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT CHIEF (Personnel), Central Office, CAN DO ABSOLUTELY - repeat ABSOLUTELY - NOTHING IN RE PENSION AT ANY TIME, ESPECIALLY IN THE PRESENT SCENARIO and so DISCUSSING "PENSION" WITH HIM/HER WILL SERVE NO PURPOSE I IT WILL BE AN EXERCISE IN FUTILITY.
There was no occasion whatever for this.
Regards.--------------------------------------------------P.Ramanathan.
* The most unkindest cut of all
Marcus Antonius:
For Brutus, as you know, was Caesar's angel.
Judge, O you gods, how dearly Caesar lov'd him!
This was the most unkindest cut of all;
For when the noble Caesar saw him stab,
Ingratitude, more strong than traitors' arms,
Quite vanquish'd him: then burst his mighty
heart. . . .
Julius Caesar Act 3, scene 2, 181–186
26)Great Advice from a veteran:
Thank you very much. I shall really follow these great advice so that I may live happy. With regards.---------Santimay kar
27)GREETINGS for ONAM FESTIVAL:
THANK U SIR FOR UR BLESSINGS ON D OCCASION OF ONAM WISH U THE SAME MAY THIS FESTIVAL BRING ALL D BEST THINGS OF LIFE PEACE PROSPERITY SOUND HEALTH HAPPINESS AND ALL ROUND PRSPERTY FOR U ALL
With Best Regards------------------------------M.S.Sachdeva
28)Greetings for Raksha Bandhan :
Let us cultivate good behaviour,the everlasting love & affection of brothers & sisters, despise sarcasm,caustic comments, mudslinging,let us appreciate good actions & not poke nose when unnecessary, let us not act,like the proverbial Indian crab when one crab goes up, another pulls down,let there be unalloyed, unadulterated gesture of goodwill ,regard & esteem for one another,let us detest fault-finding & self glorification,let joy, gladness, happiness, peace, tranquillity & Brotherhood expand in concentric circles enveloping whole family, nation & the world at large.
Then only true Raksha Bhandan dawns & universe will be a happy place to live in.
Greetings to one & all on this happy Raksha Bandhan celebrating unconditional love & regard as a human being.
----------------------------------------------------------R.B.KISHORE,VP,AIRIEF
29i))Dear Friends, Let us all the Pensioners of LIC of India greet all the Officers, DOs, Employees & Agents on this great occasion- September 1- for more and more success and prosperity.
JAI LIC.-- Regards,, -------- R.Venugopal
ii)Happy LIC Day. Greetings to all LICians both retired and in service. Pray Almighty that the dreams and wishes of all LICians come true. Jai LIC. ----------R.Gowrisankaran,
iii)I join in greeting all Licians-both serving and retired.----------C H Mahadevan
iv) Born on 1st Sep,1956,LIC,from an infant.grew to boyhood,then adulthood.a Giant, celebrated the Golden Jubilee on 1/9/2006,has earned ever so many accolades, ' a jewel in the crown, a world-class organization' .Its Logo & Emblem-Yogakshemam Vahamyaham—Thy Welfare is Our Responsibilty--became household memory. 'In the humblest of homes,our flame burns bright & Hands that protect,Hands that serve' ,are no idle boasts.
We are all LICians first & LICians last.Live your Dreams, don't dream your life ,Convert Dream into Vision.Insure & be Secure,We know India better,Zindagike sath bhi, Zindagikebadbhi . LICians dream, they envisage vision,LIC itself is an ensemble of Raga,Bhava,Thala of employees,field force & policyholders/stakeholders. Privatisation & competition have only added grit & determination enabling LIC to emerge stronger & be adored as a respectable & undisputed Market Leader. As a multi-dimensional organization, LIC has the potential, power & potency to don this new Avatar, don it must & don it will.
I used to term our LIC human resources as an assorted Brittania Cream biscuits, take any discipline, Actuary, Accountant, Engineer,Underwriter,Personnel & HRD Experts, Trainer, Marketing Experts, Dynamic Agents & Vibrant Development Officers & Field Force, Humane Policy servicing Administrators,right from proposal to Policy to Claims,Symphony in Architecture as Sri Ghadiali used to describe LIC Buildings,so Architects , IT Experts,name any, LIC has a distinct resource base that merrily carries through higher & higher. This is LIC's crowning glory.
Staggering Total Income,Booming,Solid Life Fund,more than Rs10,000crores Surplus to Govt, a Maharathna in reality, a True National Gigantic Institution in every sense of the term, unalloyed praise from every quarter,Awards & Accolades galore.Former FM Sri PChidambaram thundered,there is no better 3-letter word than L I C. Sri Arun Jaitley,present FM ,when he visited "Yogakshema" on 9th January,2015, observed, 'the Country depends on LIC to a great extent. LIC is a Role Model of how a state sector instrument can, while maintaining arm's length distance, take prudent commercial decisions and LIC has done exceedingly well.' What more testimonials needed !
Our sincere greetings & prayers on this happy occasion of LIC completing its 59th Year of Saga of Service & Security to the entire Nation.We are confident LIC dedicates itself to the Nation at large & pledges its resolve to ensure the best service to all ensuring customer delight.LIC indeed,shall shine & sparkle & emit its lustre all around.Let there be a happy culmination of wage settlement to all employees & equally a promise from LIC to honour & fulfil final SC Bench verdict in letter & spirit to make all pensioners happy in the twilight of their lives & indeed recognizing Elders as Founders who built the rock of sound edifice & strong foundation enabling LIC to grow & remain undisputed Market Leader & an epitome of financial strength & solidity.
--------------------------------------------------------R.B.KISHORE,VP,AIRIEF
v)Thank you , Sir , for writing very fittingly about LIC.
It is only your style of writing that can aptly bring out the greatness of LIC.
As you have said , LIC is HRD in reality.
We also note that LIC Agency turned lakhs and lakhs ofpersons , ordinary in themselves and in their circumstances,into Human Dynamos as well as very affluent persons.
They also contribute greatly in return
Wonder what plans LIC has , to celebrate 60th Anniversary----------K.R.Ramani
vi)BRILLIANT. CONGRATULATIONS. I wish MR. MAURICE GREENBERG and ALAN GREENSPAN knew about the REAL reason why India clicked in times of deep depression from 2008 to 2015 and beyond!
Kudos, LIC, Best.,--------Jagan R., Los Angeles
vii)Reflects the feelings and thought of every LICian. Yes, we are proud of our contribution to its growth, in whatever capacity we were.We PRAY AND WISH OUR INSTITUTION GROW AND CELEBRATE ITS MANY CENTURIES OF EXISTENCE AND WISH EVERYONE WELL.--------S.R.Nagarajan.
viii)Dear Shri Kishore, Thanks for such glowing tributes to this gigantic organization.
I am one of the privileged few who were present at the time of birth of this 59 years old child. I have seen the merger of 245 small and big life insurance companies turning into a monolith. I have seen the teething years, growing years and now its graying years. I am proud to be an LICian - all my life. Even though I retired more than 17 years back, I still call myself an LICian and feel proud to introduce myself to the people as a member of an organization which has earned the distinction of being the MOST HONEST public sector company - a few aberrations apart.
I hope you will share my feelings with my other friends also. Regards -----------,RS Ahuja
COLLECTIONS: R.B.KISHORE, VP,AIRIEF : 1/9/2015
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