PENSIONERS' EMAILS & FEEDBACK FROM 1st SEPTEMBER,2015:SERIES No.109
1)Respected sir, Thank you very much for your very prompt fortnightly mail on the feed back. So nice of you to take care of the pensioners community.The mails are enjoyable and educative. When I tell my other pensioner friends about the chain of communication of your good self, they feel so much that they do not have this luxury and facility. Thank you very much sir
Incidentally I would like to place before you one request of mine. I am paid pension by DO1 of Chennai . My current month pension has not been credited on first of Sept. Till today it has not been credited and such delays are often .2/9/15
I request you to please take up the matter for the benefit of all DO1 pensioners with the appropriate authorities and help us . My request to you is that because your voice will be heard better by the concerned .Thank you very much and sorry for the inconvenience.
With regards to You and Madam Kishore
Yours sincerely, ------------------------------C.P.Gururajan , Admirer of RBK
2)Respected sir, Thank you very much for your promptest action One Mr,Jayakumar of ZO telephoned to me and asked for the details I informed him of the position and he was kind enough to inform that he will take up the matter with DO1 and do the needful Once again thank you very much as you are the only AABADB ANDHAVA to the pensioners like me.
With kind regards ,-----------C.P. Gururajan
3)Dear Sri Ramanathan, 1)I contacted Sri Jayakumar,AO Pension Cell ZO.I also mentioned about Smt Shanta Ramanathan's email to DO 1
2)Of course, the addition is due to 31 DR slabs we get from Aug pension payable on 1/9
AO told re change in procedure, intimations automatic will get ready, all data re email etc almost loaded etc I told him, whatever internal, even if procedure improvement or rationalisation, the Intimation to Pensioner ,number of slabs, total pension has to go & cannot wait till internal work is over
FURTHER, few only have email id, not all have Mobile even, so SMS for them also not possible, so OTHERS shd not be in the lurch
I asked him WHEN all these will be over
Today as strike day, even the 7-10 days must be completed
I cautioned there shd not be any OMISSIONS & ALL pensioners must be taken care,after all HLY when DR & Mly for pension credit , as banks do.
Greetings,,-------------------RBKISHORE, VP,AIRIEF
4)Will you accept my Friendship Bouquet ?
VERY MANY THAKS FOR THIS LOVELY GIFT SENT TO ME.IWILL ALWAYS CHERISH IT AND KEEP YOU IN MY HEART A REALLY AFFECTIONATE GURU FRIEND AND PHILOSPHER, A GUIDING STAR ALWAYS THINKING FOR OUR BETTERMENT , ALWAYS ADVISING TEACHING AND ENLGHTENING WITH GREAT N NICE USEFUL THOUGHTS AND QUOTES. OBLIGED TO U SIR FOR ALL THESE AND TAKING PAINS TO WRITE SUCH THINGS FOR OUR GOOD
With Best Regards ----------------------M.S.Sachdeva
5)Planning your Digital legacy,
THANK U NSIR FOR THE VALUABLEADVICE GIVEN THRUNTHIS MAIL-------M.S.Sachdeva
6)Warren Buffet :My advice for Smart Money Management
A bunch of NEVER-BEFORE advices. Very true, applicable for all time to come ne should not fail to appreciate his depth of experience, which prompted him to formulate these advices.
--------------------------G.Krishnaswamy
7)Prediction by Nostradamus
STRANGE COINCIDENCE BESIDES PREDICTION LET US HOPE GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY BHARAT
-----------------------------M.S.Sachdeva
8)SIR , VERY GREAT OF UR FITTING REPLY THAT SHOULD BE AN EYE OPENER TO THE CONCERNED. THIS NEEDS WIDER PUBLICITY AT LEAST AMONGST OUR MEMBERS TO APPRECIATE UNNECESSARY VILIFICATION CAMPAIGN BEING PURSUED BY THE OTHERS. IT IS ALSO NECESSARY THAT SRI KMLA ALSO GIVES ASSURANCE ON PURSUING THE CASE OF THE POST AUG.97 PENSIONERS FOR UPDATION.
THE MEDICLAIM CARDS ARE NOT ISSUED IN S.C ZONE .I THINK THEY WERE ISSUED ONLY IN 3,4 ZONES OUT OF THE EIGHT ZONES. THE L.I.C DIVIL. OFFICES ARE ALSO NOT HELPING THE PENSIONERS WHO WANT TO AVAIL THE CASHLESS BENEFIT . REALLY IT IS CRUEL FOR ADMINISTRATION OF L.I.C AND THE T.P.AS.REALLY IT IS DEFICIENCY OF SERVICE.CAN WE TAKE IT UP AS PER CONSUMER PROTECTION ACT.
WITH GREETINGS -------- --------------- V.S.PRAKASARAO
9)BRAIN FACTS :STARTLING
VERY MANY THX FOR MAKING US KNOWN FACTS ABOUT BRAIN UNKNOWN TO US SO FAR. THESE R REALLY MIND BLOGGING. THANKS AGAIN FOR THE EFFORTS BEING MADE TO PASS ON THE UNIQUE INFORMATION, With Best Regards,-----M.S.Sachdeva
10)This is undoubtedly a very good initiative to give pension payment advice to the individual pensioners through mails. Every Division should try to get it implemented.----- --- Santimay Kar
11)TEACHERS' DAY
i)Big salute to our teaching community.matha'pitha,guru deivam.
You are also one of the best teachers and our OTC, ZTC training sessions vibrate your voice and as far my knowledge goes nobody excelled your good self in this noble service
Big salute to all teachers------- -----------------RTSwamy
ii)Your greetings on Teachers Day are as deep-rooted and meaningful as teachings of the Vedas and ancient scriptures - full of inspiration guidance and motivation to all ages and as universal as ever !
Maa Saraswati has bestowed you this inner knowledge. We all must ever remain grateful to you for this yeomen contribution for our fraternity. -----------HARISH GANATRA
iii)Great! U have been everything!
Kindly read my ENVIUS THOUGHTS on these themes.
Thanks. ---------------N V Subbaraman,
iv)RESPECTED SIR, PRANAMS, YOU HAVE BEEN A GREAT SOURCE OF INSPIRATION AND A GREAT TEACHER AND HAVE BEEN PRODUCER OF MANY TEACHERS FOR LIC OF INDIA.
YOU WERE A PRINCIPAL OF MDC, A GREAT INSTITUTE OF LEGENDARY LIC.
RESPECTS TO YOU ON BEHALF OF MANY OF YOUR STUDENTS LIKE ME..
YOURS ------------------------------BVS PRASAD
v) Sir, My respectful greetings on the occasion of Teachers Day. I am one of the beneficiaries of your teaching/training. -High regards. -------------RR Nair
vi)Respected sir, Going thru ur mail, I feel I am in a training session listening to your eloquent and thought provoking lecture ------------SSubramonia Iyer,, thank u
12)BRIGHTEN UR DAY WITH THESE INSPIRING WORDS
i)What a beautiful message worth remembering and follow Thanks, sir for ur forward
--------------------------------------------RKViswanathan
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Good lessons ---RTSwamy
13)JANMASHTAMI GREETINGS
THANK YOU FOR YOUR GREETINGS.
I HEARTILY RECIPROCATE YOUR JANMASHTAMI GREETINGS AND PRAY TO LORD KRISHNA TO
SHOWER HIS BLESSINGS ON YOU ,YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE LIC
PENSIONERS' FRATERNITY.
Kind regards.------------------------C H Mahadevan
14)LIC AWARD –LIC Golden Jubilee Scheme
*iT IS ABSOLUTELY A WISE DECISION TAKEN BY LIC TOWARDS THIS NOBLE CAUSE IN ITS PROMISE AND ENDEAVOUR TO RENDER SOCIAL SERVICES FOR THE BENEFIT OF SUCH PEOPLE WHO WILL BE LARGELY HELPED TO PROVIDE EDUCATION TO THEIR CHILDREN. i CONVEY MY SINCERE THANKS TO THE lic MANAGEMENT AND OTHERS WHO ARE PARTIES TO THIS DECISION AND FEEL PROUD THAT i HAD REMAINED ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ORGANISATION FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS.
-------------------------------------- SANTIMAY Kar
15)A Faithful Presentation of Vital Points for crucial 23 Sep,2015 SC Bench hearing to clinch Specific Favourable Judgement : RBKishore,VP,AIRIEF , Series 1,2 & 3
i) A superb aide memoire for your colleagues on the pension issue.
With regards------ Kasiviswanathan, NABARD
ii)Wonderful comprehension.our Advocate' s team needs further briefing
Pray God good health &cheer to u fly. ---------A.a.annaiah , Mysore
iii)Dear sir, Hats off to you for such a valuable, Crystal Clear n path breaking presentation for 23/09/15 .Regards, --------Santosh Singh, Meerut
iv)FRIENDS, WE THANK SH RB KISHORE, VP AIRIEF, FOR HIS ELABORATE, LUCID & COGENT PRESENTATION.
BEGINNING OF THE END WILL START W.E.F 23.09.2015 IN THE SUPREME COURT, WHEN
WE CAN EXPECT TO FINALLY SEE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL WITHIN A SHORT
PERIOD OF TIME THAT MAY BE CONSUMED IN FIGHTING THE LEGAL INTRICACIES FALSELY/MALICIOUSLY ,CREATED BY UOI SLP/LIC's BIASED ACTIONS. BUT ULTIMATELY TRUTH WILL TRIUMPH & PENSIONERS WILL GET FULL JUSTICE.
WITH PROFOUND REGARDS & BEST WISHES,-----------H K AGGARWAL.
v) Wonderful presentation OF FACTS AND ARGUMENTS IN THE WRITE UP TO HELP THE CASE MANAGERS AND FOR SENIOR CONSELS TO PLACE BEFORE THE SC ON 23RD SEP.LOT OF HARD WORK AND MIND APPLIED FOR THE WELFARE OF PENSIONERS TO GET THEM THEIR DUE., ONLY THING IS NOW HOW THE CASE MANAGERS AND THE COUNSELS PLACE THEM TO OUR ADVANTAGE TO GET JUSTICE.
THE ARGUMENTS .FACTS .LATEST JUDGEMENTS OF SC HC AND PREVIOUS JUDGEMENTS LIKE NAKARA ARE TO OUR AID AND SUPPORT. ALL POINTS RAISED AGAINST REG 48 .FUNDS AVAILABILITY ETC STAND NOWHERE BEFORE THE FACTS AND JUDGEMENTS QUOTED BY U IN THE WRITE UP. THANK U SIR FOR SO MUCH EFFORT MADE.THE CASE MANAGERS SHOULD CLOSE THEIR RANKS AND FIGHT WHOLE HEARTEDLY TO USE THIS WRITE UP TO OUR BENEFIT ON 23RD WITH ONE VOICE TO GET THE TWIN benefit DA AND UPDATION SEEING THE DIFFERENCE OF AMOUNTS GIVEN IN D CHART FROM SWEEPERS GRADE TO ED GRADE, AN EYE OPENER FOR US ALL .
OUR SINCEREST PRAYERS FOR POSITIVE OUTCOME OF EFFORTS BY U AND ALL CASE MANAGERS' FOR ALL THESE YEARS OF STRUGGLE BY ALL CONNECTED WITH THE CASE.
With Best Regards --------------M.S.Sachdeva
vi)Excellent Presentation. Thank U-- -Dronamraju MangarajaRao
vii) Thank you very much Sir, for the clear picture in numerical presentation.
Thanks a TON.-----------Jyotiprasad Banerjee
viii)Respected shri Kishorji,Many many thanks for your extreme pain to prepare detailed statics of income and expenses of LIC yearwise alongwith the figures which pensioners get at present in comparision with in service employees and with Gov employees.
We are sure these hard efforts will definitely yield the desired fruits on 23rd itself.We pray almighty god for your best state of health in rest of your life
Thanking you once again----------P B Acharya (Jamnagar-Rajkot DO)
ix) Really u have taken tremendous pains in compiling this statistics which will help in presenting our case, our community will be grateful for this---------digambar gadgil
16)21 Photographs of India That Foreign Media Won't Show You
Truly great presentation of emerging India of 21st century ! Kudos to you.
Hope these slides get viral all over 100000000000000000000
of times !=---------------------------------------------- Harish.Ganatra
17)RESERVED Vs DESERVED
.VERY NICELY ANALYSED THE CAUSE OF INDIAS NEVER GETTING NEARER TO DEVELOPED COUNTRIES.TALENT DOES NOT GET A CHANCE RESEVATION MARRING CHANCES OF NURTURING REAL TALENT WHICH GETS FRUSTRATED NEVER TO GET THEIR DUE. THIS IS D CAUSE OF BRAIN DRAIN.THE COUNTRIES WHERE THE GO GET THEIR BENEFIT IN FURTHER ADVANCE MENT AS SHOWN IN THE STATISTICS IN THE MSG. IT IS SAD FOR INDIA THESE FACTS R NOT BOTHERING POLITICIANS. THEY WANT ONLY POWER THRU CASTE RESERVATION POLITICS.NO BODY BOTHERS ABT WELFARE OF INDIAN PEOPLE.PRESENT ELECTIONS R TESTIMONY OF CASTE POLITICS THOGH DEVELOPMENT REMAINS ISSUE ONLY FOR SH0W OFF.GOD ONLY KNOWS WHEN OUR POLITICAL BOSSES WILL REALISE THE DAMAGE BEING CAUSED BY THE KIND OF POLITICS BEING FOLLOWED BY THEM.
SOONER THEY REALISE BETTER WOULD BE FOR THE COUNTRY. WISH THEY SHUN CASTE AND RESERVATION POLITICS FOR THE WELFARE OF INDIA AND THE INDIANS.
With Best Regards -------------M.S.Sachdeva
18)DESPITE THE BETRAYAL, NO NEED TO DESPAIR
Referring to the post of Mr M Sreenivasa Murty,on LIC pretending to pay the due payment to the pre-August 1997 retiree Class I Officer-members of the Class I Federation, we had actually discussed among ourselves using the calculations to discover the inadequacy of the amount of interim relief LIC proposes to pay to the concerned retirees.
In the example quoted by Mr Murty,what has been mentioned is the minimum loss sustained by the pensioner in question when the pre-August 1997 DR arrears due are taken into account besides the required successive revisions of Basic Pension on 1/8/2002,and 1/8/2007 also following the same principle of merger of DR with Basic pension followed w.e.f 1/8/1997( taking the existing reduced DR slabs in the process of merger).
In the background office note submitted CO Personnel dept to the Board before the Board Resolution was passed,a reference had been made to three types of DR formulae for the different generations of pensioners and the need for rationalizing the DR was also emphasized. Reading the Jaipur Bench judgment allowing the first Writ Petition for removing the DR anomaly along with this , it is incumbent on LIC to not only apply the DR formula as applicable for in-service employees as on 1/11/1993 or the date of retirement whichever is later, but also revise the Basic Pension by merger of DR(at in-service rates) with the existing Basic Pension ( I am not going into the question of weightage of 11.25% on 1/8/1997 mentioned in the Board Resolution) on 1/8/1997,1/8/2002 and 1/8/2007.
Once a principle of merger of DR with existing Basic Pension for revision of Basic Pension is followed for 1/8/1997,LIC is not justified in not following that principle on 1/8/2002 & 1/8/2007 and freezing the revised basic Pension (that too wrongly) for all future months. If the revised pension of the retired officer in question (who retired on 31/8/1990) had been calculated correctly as indicated above, the revised Basic Pension on 1/8/1997,1/8/2002 and 1/8/2007 would have been much more and the arrears due to this pensioner would have been Rs 5.5 lks as at 31/7/2014 against which LIC paid only Rs 34883/- in the court.(If upgradation is to be effected as per the Jaipur and Chandigarh judgments,his dues would have been more than Rs 14 lks on 31/7/2015). If LIC pays him as interim relief only Rs 6977/-, it will be hardly 1.3% of the amount due as per their own method,but with suitable revisions of Basic Pension on 1/8/2002 &18/2007 also and not 20%.
I also happened to work out the dues to a retired officer who retired on 31/12/1995 as DM on Basic Pension of 5350/- and I found, if he is paid interim relief on the basis of the known methodology of LIC, he will be receiving only 1.4% of the total amount due to him as at 31/7/2015 instead of 20% as interim relief. The situation may be similar in the case of all the 1300+ pre-August 1997 retirees who are likely to receive the interim relief payments.
While I am happy that the pre-August 1997 retirees are going to receive some interim relief when all of them are in a desperately expectant situation which is understandable, it is a matter of regret that these retirees are going to receive a shamefully inadequate amount against which there is no likelihood of a semblance of protest.
Meek acceptance of the pittance amount without protest will definitely enable LIC to try to walk away escaping the charge of contempt while not paying the amount due as per the Supreme Court order dated 7/5/2015.
It is very clear that the interest of the pensioners especially the older ones at large has been miserably compromised as it appears from the likely inadequate payment for a few on the one hand and denial for the similarly placed pensioners numbering about 13000+ in spite of the Delhi High Court judgment ordering benefits in rem .
But I am sure that cause of the pensioners (both pre-August 1997 and post-July 1997) is still not lost and saviors will still emerge. So pensioners have no need to lose heart. Let us look forward to 23 rd September hearing, but not with undue hopes. Nevertheless we have a valuable opportunity to place our strong points before the Bench.
Greetings,------------------------C H Mahadevan
19)SAD NEWS OF THE DEMISE OF SRI RAMJI ,VETERAN TRADE UNIONIST & FOUNDER SECRETARY,RIEA CHENNAI
i)OUR SINCEREST CONDOLENCES ON SAD DEMISE OF SH RAMJI VETERAN UNIONIST. MAY HIS SOUL REST IN PEACE. MAY GOD GRANT STRENGTH TO THE BEREAEVED FAMILY TO BEAR THIS IRREPARABLE LOSS
With Best Regards------------M.S.Sachdeva
ii)Dear Mr Kishore, I am very sorry to hear the news of demise of Mr Ramji who was my Assistant in the City PHS Loans dept when I was AAO between 1971 and 1973.You had also joined as our AO after Mr T R Nagoji Rao went on transfer.
Mr Ramji was a very enlightened union leader and was very positive in his approach in matters cropping up now and then. Although it was a matter of satisfaction that he lived upto age 89, his demise is
a great loss for those who have been associated with him and his near and dear ones.He was quite friendly with me as AAO and quite cooperative and he was attending to Loan Payments quite efficiently.
Kindly convey my condolences to the bereaved family.
May his soul rest in peace. Mournfully yours,------------C H Mahadevan
iii)Heartfelt condolences Sir.May his soul rest in Peace------.Balakrishnan M.K
iv)Sorry to know Sri.Ramji a veteran Trade Unionist passed away.His yeoman service to serve the interest of LIC employees and retirees will be remembered for ever.My heart felt condolences to the bereaved family. May his soul rest in Peace.----------PABalasubramanian
v)A FITTING TRIBUTE TO A GREAT SOUL, IN ITS TRUE SENSE. As a transferred employee from erstwhile insurers, myself and Sri. Ramji had many occasions to interact as members of the same T.U. in the early years of LIC, with Late Mohan Kumaramangalam as President and Sri Ramji, the General Secretary. When I saw Ramji's photo under Obituary Column this morning in "The Hindu', I recollected those days and told my close family members in brief of those early days. Only from your mail, I came to know that Sri. Ramji is the founder member of RIEA and its first G.S. in Madras. I continued my membership with AIIEA till my promotion to Officer's cadre and later joined AIIPA.
MAY SRI RAMJI'S QUALITIES PERVADE ALL T.U. LEADERS IN THE SERVICE OF THE LABOUR CLASSES, DIFFERENCES NOT WITHSTANDING. THERE IS ALWAYS A MEETING GROUND.--------------S.R. NAGARAJAN.
vi)Thanks Sir for your sharing the news of the sad demise of Mr Ramji.
He was with me too when I was AAO- Loans during 1970-71 at the UI Building Chennai.
Despite a staunch Unionist, he was a great gentleman in his dealings, especially the Class I Officers, a rare quality during those 'hot' days- may be a rare quality even today!
May Ramji's soul rest in peace.------- ----------R.Venugopal.
20)SZ ZM Sri T.Sitharthan Initiative FOUNDERS' DAY,he termed us Pensioners, 7Sep 2015,massive 650 pensioners thronged the Kalyana Mandapam,Mylapore,Former Chairman Sri KPNarasimhan.Former MD Sri G.Chidambar,EDs,ZMs,SDM,DM,All cadres hall overflowing ,memories past, handshake & embrace,Inauguration,Speeches, Powerpoint Presentation, Pensioners memories told by few,ZM presented Angavasthram to Senior Officers,LIC –People, Process,Performace with Action Plan 2015-16 of all Depts,intimate get-together,exchange of pleasantries,delicious,fabulous Lunch,et all.Great & Memorable Day for all pensioners,indeed FOUNDERS
Kindly download the Founders Day photos in the address provided below :
COLLECTIONS: R.B.KISHORE, VP,AIRIEF : 16/9/2015
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